~*INTERVIEWS AND CRAP*~

Frenzal Rhomb and Loudmouth Cough Up A Storm - Issue 6 of REBEL RAZOR Magazine

Jay and his Sling - by Baxter Stone

Meet Frenzal Rhomb - from Massive! Magazine (can't remember which issue)

Frenzal Rhomb on the Buzz

Frenzal Rhomb in the FUTURE OF MUSIC cover story - JUICE Magazine #80

CLEVER DICKS! - Massive! Magazine Dec '98/Jan '99


Frenzal Rhomb and Loudmouth Cough Up A Storm
Frenzal Rhomb singer Jason Whalley found an interesting take on the old showbiz saying "break a leg" when he stage dived during a show in Brisbane by NOFX, who he was supporting.
Jason broke his collarbone. But fate forgave him for injuring the wrong body part and good luck was forthcoming anyway.
"We've been signed by Fat Wreck Chords, which is the label owned by NOFX lead singer (Fat Mike)," Whalley dubbed in Frenzal Rhomb CD liner notes as "Long Boy", told Rebel Razor.
"Now, we wouldn't want to be signed to any other label in the world. It's just tremendous."
Another progeny of the burgeoning Sydney (well Newtown actually) punk scene, Frenzal impressed Fat Mike with their performances on tour and a CD they handed him.
Until now they were best known as the band who sung I Wish I Was As Credible As Roger Climpson, thereby getting them into TV Week.
But bigger things are on their way.
"Well, I'm looking foreward to getting back into gardening," Jason says.
Huh?
"No seriously. We're going to have a bit of a break and I've just moved into a house at Erskineville that has a big garden. So I'm looking forward to that."
What about world domination and all that?
"Oh. Well, Fat are looking at releasing an EP and we haven't decided if we'll release the current album, Coughing Up A Storm, over there or use it as a demo and go and record over there."
"So that's pretty cool."
Jason has his arm in a sling at the moment - he was told Medicare doesn't cover broken collarbones because they are classified as "cosmetic" injuries.
He considered workers' comp'.
"But I wasn't singing at the time, which is a bit of a problem."
"I could sue the venue owners. Hehe. But I don't that would be good for us in the long run." - SM


Jay and his Sling
Frenzal Rhomb had a few mishaps following the April release of Coughing up a Storm when vocalist Jason Whalley broke his collarbone. This however didn't stop him from performing. The accident happened while the Frenzal's were playing with American band NOFX on the Gold Coast. In Sydney he was seen singing in a sling which was, as one concerned St John's representative said "not only inappropriate for the type of injury, but actively detrimental to the long term health of the patient". But what can you do if you have got to sing? It may not be the singing that the Ambulance man was concerned,but about the manic performance associated with it.

The Pope being impressed with Frenzal Rhomb's excellent stage sound stole the bands sound man for his sell out tour of Australia and wanted to take him to Asia as well, but the band kipnapped him and saved him from the holy cult and took him on the road with them to play with Offspring. Apparently Offspring's guitarist Noodles has been causing some concern in the US media for still wearing Frenzal Rhomb's T- Shirt months after their Australia Tour becoming both a cultural and microbio-hazard.

The band were asked to record a track for the recent AC/DC tribute album by BMG only to suffer threatened legal action for infringing copyright by using sampled "Oi's" from the original version. The band is pooling all their creative intelligence to find a suitable way of adapting the song without using the infringing samples. They have been around for a few years, their previous CD was called Dick Sandwich, they are highly popular in N.S.W and lately they have become very popular here in Victoria. Be ready for the Frenzy when Frenzal Rhomb appear at Push Over '95.


Meet Frenzal Rhomb
WHOSE FAULT IS IT IF PEOPLE LIKE YOUR BAND? WELL, IT'S YOURS IF YOU INSIST ON WRITING CATCHY SONGS. SO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES....

Newtown was once Frenzal Rhomb's town. They were the epitome of what a Newton band would look and sound like; ugly, fast, funny, but not very serious at all. But while they've been out selling thousands and thousands of copies of Not So Tough Now and playing their poppy chops in front of thousands of kids in Australia and Japan, Newton has changed.

Gentrification is very much the flavour of the month and so, it would seem, it is earnestness. And while their town has changed, Frenzal Rhomb haven't. It is almost impossible to keep them collectively on the same train though for more than a few sentences. But that's cool, they don't take things seriously, so why should you? Right? Right.

Sitting in a Newton cafe, or hardworld as they've re-christened it, I suggest that there's a kind of a
family theme going on with this new record, Meet The Family. The first single is called There's Your Dad....

"Yeah, I don't know how that came about really. There's 3 songs that fit that theme," says vocalist Jay, " the
first single is a really unfunny band joke that we seem to be the only people who find funny. It never fails to get a chuckle from someone in the band but everyone else we've told it to go, "Uh, yeah."

"The first song on the record is called Oh My God, Mum's Changed The Locks," says Lindsay, continuing however briefly with the same thought, "but we were gonna call it the album Oh My God, I just Ate Shit," he adds, destroying any sense of cohesion.

"When we were recording we were looking through this really crap sound magazine, with all the latest technology and there was this picture of these guitar legends...", continues Jay....

"Steve Lukather was one of them," chimes in band manager
Chris.
"Toto!" hoots Lindsay.
"Yeah, anyway..." perseveres Jay.
"I believe you were drawing penises on them and sticking
pens through their eyes?" asks Chris.
"Yes, they were all standing there with their guitars
and we did really, really humorous things like that..."
"They looked really good," adds Chris.
"And the caption on the page was Meet The Family", and we figured,'Well, we're not gonna come up with anything better than that without a swear word in it," says Jay, and he is probably right. Swearing, it would seem, is second nature to the band."

"One of the first album titles we came up with," continues Lindsay (or Dr Lindemans as he is known) on a theme that he obviously finds very mirthful indeed, "was Oh My God, I Just Ate Shit."
"We had a picture of Lindsay picked out for the front going..." says Jay, pulling a rude head.
Well, good move because people could've confused you with Sdistik Exekution, but I disgress.

To record and engineer Meet The Family, Frenzal Rhomb employed the services of Donnell Cameron, a man whose name would be familiar to fans of early Bad Religion and other Epitah releases. So, I ask, tell us about him.
What advice did he have for Frenzal Rhomb, particularly for Lex- who has now joined us at the table- as Lex has worked in a studio for a number of years?

"'Double-up Donnell Cameron'," says Jay.
"'Deal Me In Donnell', says the Doc.
"Donnell's a gambler."
"Or 'Me and The Doc Are Going To Vegas Donnell'," laughs Jay.
"Donnell's a cool cat, the coolest of all felines," says Lindsay.

"He'd heard of the band before he got here," says Jay a little sheepishly. "I think we'd sent him a couple of things that he liked, but we were really wary of ending up sounding like another Californian punk band if we used him to produce the record."

But as far as his efforts in making the record sound as it does, that's best left to Lex. Although Lindsay needsto speak first.

"In fact, he had every idea and every suggestion. It took 4 days just to get my amp to sound right."
"Separation, I think was the best advice . I know," Lex stresses. "I know you're supposed to do it. Normally you are supposed to separate all the sounds so that you can hear them on the record, but he's just got the skills to do that I didn't have."

Well, you can hear that on the record can't you? "You can actually hear what's going on. What all the instruments are doing. I reckon when you listen to it you can hear everything," agrees Jay.
It also sounds for some reason to be typically Australian, I offer in an attempt to continue down this relatively sensible path. But drummer Nat has now joined us and he demands to know why cafes don't offer any other soup other than pumpkin. Very loudly he demands to know this, very loudly and in the direction of my tape recorder.
Thankfully, Jay steers his ship of fools back on course.

"Yeah, we do sound Australian, even though we don't try to. But using words like 'Cockhead' will always make you sound Australian."

"There's alot of bands who don't sound Australian," offers Lindsay, can of worms at the ready and looking around for an opener.
"Yes, true enough, but let's not name fingers or point names..."
"Wankshaft is a good one," reckons Nat, getting back to the topic of Australiana.
"Fucknuckle too! Rough sack even," laughs Jay.
"Youse go sick, eh! If that's not Australian I don't know what is," adds Nat with a tone of finality.

Aside from the family theme we talked of and the theme of fluent, uptempo, easy to digest tunes contained on Meet The Family, there is a of a hell of alot of swearing, as we mentioned earlier too. Is swearing tough, I ask, or is it a want of better education?
"Get fucked, ya cunt," says Lindsay.
"I happen to be University educated myself," says Jay proudly, although like many good Newton residen'ts he only completed 2 years of his BA degree at Sydney Uni.
"I think probably - and I've said this in interviews before - we just try and say things how we'd say it, if that makes sense . We don't try to embelish the things we say to make them seem like something that they're not.
It's a little pretentious, I reckon, to start using too many metaphors when it's just as easy to say, ' Well, as a matter of fact, you're a fuckhead! It could be put a lot more eloquently , but you still get the point across."

Do you see that as a reason for some of the antagonism between yourselves and some of the other bands around the place? That you don't see the need to prove yourselves to be intelligent....
"Or hard," offers Jay.
And in fact you are quite happy to wallow in this self-imposed idiocy. "Do you say mediocity?" challenges Nat.
"Talent imposed mediocrity, more like," says the Doctor.
"I like to think of it more as a tall poppy syndrome, for I am indeed a tall poppy," believes Jay.
"We played a show at Gosford on the weekendand these kids were complaining to me that they thought it was bad Frenzal were selling out shows and that people wanted to come andsee the band. I was like,"Surely anyone who wants to see the band should be allowed to? Don't you guys like the band? What separates you from other people who like the band?'." Jay tells me later that someone did call a bomb threat in on the venue that they played.
"Someone who couldn't get in," he laughs. "I think our general plan of only doing demos and giving them away at rallies went quite soothly..." he continues."Yeah, we had quite a big impact on the rally scene," laughs Lex.
"Rally! I don't mind car racing," says Nat. "That Sega-Rally[TM] is pretty good, too," says the Doctor and thankfully our lunch arrives.


Frenzal Rhomb on THE BUZZ
For over three years now Frenzal Rhomb have been well known for their blazing speed, questionably 'offensive lyrics' and wild 'in your face' on-stage antics. What would the interview be like, we wondered, as we waited on the other end of the telephone line for our interview with Romb frontman Jason X.

Recently the 'hype' over this Sydney band has been moving into extreme mode. We quote from the official bright orange history of Frenzal Rhomb that landed on The Buzz's desk.

"Frenzal Rhomb's history is about to catch up with them. On the band's last visit to Melbourne, their
arrival was greeted with a phonecall. The police had arrived with a warrant for the arrest of Jay, mild
mannered showman with F.R. Two weeks later a pair of burly thugs arrive at Nat's home, with a view to
repossessing furniture and personal effects on behalf of Telstra. The communications giant had not accepted Nat's claim that he was deceased and therefore not available to pay his anonymous telephone debt. The band has been on the move since, lurking in the shadows, staying away from main roads and living on beans and the generosity of passers-by.

Daniel Johns of silverchair was threatened with failure by his high school music teacher after he expressed an interest in performing the FR song Genius for class assessment. Jason set his house on fire. Ben's dad has him committed to institutional life and Molly Meldrum was heard to remark "yeah. Good band. Like 'em. The country is getting nervous.

With the momentous new album So Tough Now the band have blown their cover, bringing you the tunes, the breakneck speed and the brutal sense of the ridiculous that the kids have been queueing up for since they started
The band toured with NOFX, released a single through Fat Wreck Chords, played Livid, Big Day Out, The Push Over, sjows with Offspring, Propagandhi, SNFU, The Meanies, injured themselves, injured fans, got attacked by the TRG and finally put their hands up in defeat and signed to Shock..
Phew!!!!!

Hype in most cases far exceeds reality and it was a surprise to learn that these Sydney 'hardcases' met while studying physics at a Sydney University. Inspirationally the name 'Frenzal Rhomb' was coined or maybe still exists deep down in some of those mythical physics books that Ben aned Jason were studying prior to their miraculous conversion forum physics nerds to punk purists. Perhaps truth is stranger than fiction after all!

The Frenzal Rhomb guys are about to release another album Not So Tough Now! which features 17 short, punchy songs. Those with semi advanced CD players might fall for the 53 tracks display on their CD dials, but 17 there is just one secret track.

Describing themselves as 'pretty young at heart', Jason is pretty proud of the fact that he can write songs that the kids can relate to or as he proudly puts it "K.I.D.S. spells R.O.C.K.' Have the guys changed over three and a half years?

"We've been writing the same kind of songs for ages. I think we developed not at all in the past three years.' Hey wait a minute, we've read a couple of reviews that have described Frenzal Rhomb as developing enormously eg. "Where there was first tack and bad jokes, now there's tack, bad jokes and lots of great hooks."

"We those reviewers, well, they're all wrong. Many reviewers say we're shit, we've only got about two good reviews that can be sent to you. When the last album came out we had a string of bad reviews, then the record sells heaps, then you get another string of reviews that say it's really good."Taking a serious note for a few seconds, Jason admits to The Rhomb refining their skills. It's something they've been aiming for and he hopes that it's pretty evident in the new album. "Ben is a lot better as a guitarist. Lex has stayed on an even keel." Having toured with US punk legends No FX had this affected the Rhomb guys with the new release? Jason didn't seem to think so, but mentioned English band 'The Toy Dolls' as something that he was right into describing
them as a "pretty seminal punk band" as compared to what he felt was the generic brand of punk pop coming out of west coast bands such as Blink-182. "There are a lot of bands doing the same thing at the moment and it's pretty difficult to stand apart from getting boxed in with these bands. I prefer listening to jazz."

Frenzal Rhomb's thematic approach to teen life comes across in a number of numbers: 'Parasite, Now Is Not Your Thyme, Wrong Is Right, Disappoinment' are just three.
'Disappointment is something I wrote when I left school. We re-worked it for this album. That one is a bit more naive, if you will, since I wrote it so early on. Wrong Is Right, though you can't really tell is about capital punishment in all its forms. The problem with these lyrics is that I wrote most of these lyrics on the days that we recorded them. The new album was just really rushed this time around. We wrote most of the songs really quickly. Most of the songs were written two weeks before the recording and I wrote most of the lyrics two days before we recorded.

It was a good thing really as it ended up sounding really live, even though we had to do about twenty different tracks in about fifty different takes. Don't read much into the lyrics. The last record had a strong anti-violence theme. This one has a little bit of that with Punch In The Face and Wot Not. We realized that we hadn't put out a record in about a year, that we should get it together to do another one. We didn't have any money, so we decided to cut our losses and sigh with Shock. It seems to be working out pretty well. We've got a good deal with them. They're going to try and set up deals overseas."

Punch In Your Face features some pretty interesting
sound effects to grab your intentions with. Where did
you get these samples?
"These were recorded after the song when we thought
we should put in the sound of someone getting punched.
It was off one of those old vinyl CD's, you know 'Punch
Face One, Punch Face Two. It's actually called "Two Men
Fighting in an Alley.'
Uncle Ken has to be based on someone you know? Jason admitted he built it around his very own Uncle Ken "a very nice guy whose politics leave a lot to be desired. He's a Sunshine Coast developer and inclined to want to put up big high risers and isn't concerned with the natural flora and fauna of the region. He believes that mangrove swamps are swamps and should be destroyed." Well we thought are you sending good ol' Uncle Ken a copy? "No. I don't think so. He's heard abnout the song, but he hasn't heard the lyrics. It will probably cause a terrible family rift.'

Frenzal Rhomb's reputation for confrontational lyrics means you don't play it in front of your grandparents (or maybe you do). We wondered whether this was deliberate, how you feel at the time or just plain angry all the time.

"Maybe I don't have a particular good command of the English language, I prefer to use swear words. I think that in lyric writing you may as well say what you mean in the simplist terms rather than try to dresss it up and make it self indulgent. I think it is pregeable for this style of music. I prefer to say 'You are a knob' rather than say 'There are various aspects of your personality that I am disatisfied with."

'Not So Tough Now' will be out this week, so walk down to a good indie store and pick up a copy before Uncle Ken buys them all up. The Melbourne launch will take place July 12th at the Palace of Punk Rock, Oxide in Prahran.


FRENZAL RHOMB Australia's Favourite stench-core quartet prepare to meet their destiny
Who represents the future of music according to Frenzal Rhomb guitarist Lindsay MacDougall? "Goodness there's so many isn't there," he begins. "At the risk of making other bands feel cheap, with the arrival of the new millenium comes Frenzal Rhomb's inevitable domination of the world."
"We're gonna become the biggest band in the world, if onlyfor the blink of an eye, then fade into the obscuritywe deserve. Then we'll resurrect ourselves two years later to play to ten people in an out-of-the-way beer barn. Then we'll retire from the music scene ladling blame for our failure on everyone around us, rather than those who most deserve it, ourselves.
And we'll end up shrivelling fr om the bloated infections associated with second-hand needle use."
With their A Man's Not A Camel album now released in the US and a slot on the '99 Vans Warped shows to keep them out of trouble through the middle of the year, there could exist some semblance of truth in this brash claim. In the meantime look to Sydney hardcore stalwarts Toe To Toe, underground Sydney bands like Flyspeak, Nancy Vandal, Skulker, the Del Emmas...
"And us again," MacDougal concludes. "Anyone who can step bravely into the new millenium and say, "We are the best thing that you're ever gonna hear!"


CLEVER DICKS!
FIVE minuters after finishing an interview with Frenzal's Jason Whalley and Dr Lindsay Lindemans, Jay calls back sounding somewhat aroused. He's failed to share the exciting news that he's recently engaged in a sexual encounter with American pop sensation Jewel. Lindsay is quick to point out that the missionary position wasn't even so much as a brief consideration. It's this sort of obvious disrespect for the female gender that makes the humble female journalist quake at the thought of interviewing these heaving temples of masculinity. The ever-suffering Cathy Sexton continues regardless.

Massive!: Last time we spoke to you, you had just replaced that young fellow with the small dick with Gordy, how's that all working?
Jay: Well, he's a young fellow with a large dick.
Lindsay: He's got a really massive, massive penis. But yes, it's been very good and he's been a joy to tour with and to work with. We recorded eight songs for our new record over in LA and Gordy came up trumps.
Jay: He put them all down one song after another with no headphones on, in one take, just like that!
Massive!: Unwritten Law were telling us that the American Warped Tour is far more comfortable than the Australian leg, is that the case?
Jay: Maybe for Americans!
Massive!: Surely they've still got you Frenzal boys in tents?
Jay: We couldn't actually afford a tent. We got to sleep under the Bad Religion bus that was kinda nice once.
Massive!: At least you got to sleep under the stars!
Jay: That guy from Bad Religion he was cool, and that guy from No FX...he was OK.
Lindsay: Did he talk to you?
Jay: I think he looked at me once.
Lindsay: Yeah, I saw them play but I couldn't get backstage but it was pretty cool.
Massive!: What's the American crowd response to you guys been like, we hear you've been going down a treat?
Lindsay: It's been going very well, I have absolutely no idea why we've been getting really good crowds each day on the Warped tour, but it took us a while to get used to it because they actually clapped in American accents, it was hard to understand.
Massive!: Who were the really big party animal-type bands?
Lindsay: Us.
Jay: Everyone else was too old, we tried to get some of these Americans into like drinking and stuff but...I must admit they were all taking the party drug heroin in abundance but...they really couldn't keep up with us.
Massive!: So what about groupies, do they have a quality groupie in America?
Lindsay: Oh yeah, they're a very high standard, we'd probably have more luck with women if we were carpenters.
Massive!: Or the American president!
Lindsay: That was funny actually 'cause we were there while that was going on.
Massive!: I thought I saw you in the background while he was giving that speech?
Lindsay: Yeah, that was me sucking his cock...trying to get a job.
Massive!: So what have you guys been doing in your spare time over there, has there been much strip club action going on?
Jay: You're really digging here, aren't you?

Massive!: Absolutely!
Lindsay: Well, Gordy was actually asked to star in a Japanese porno. Alexis, Jason and myself are all back here now whereas Gordy has dropped off in Japan to do the post-production.
Jay: He didn't want to do it at first because in Japan they digitise out all of your genitals so you can't actually see the specifics of what's going on and Gordy obviously wanted to show off.
Lindsay: But when he actually took his pants down in Japan we found out that they don't actually do it digitally, in Japan automatically all of our genitals are digitised.

Massive!: I'm curious about the pin-up boy status that you lads have obviously reached, how does that sit with you?
Lindsay: Well I've always considered myself a bit of a pin-up boy since I was very young...but I don't think anyone in their right minds would want to pin us up on the wall, imagine waking up every day and seeing a picture of us.
Massive!
: We actually received a letter from a young lady the other day in New Zealand, and she was a bit concerned because she had seen pictures of you, "especially the sexy dreaded one," and she wasn't able to get a copy of any of your albums over there.
Jay: Oh, that sux...you didn't happen to get her phone number at all?
Massive!: Tell us a bit about this new album that you've been recording, is there much of a departure from the Frenzal Rhomb that we know and love?
Lindsay: Apart from the fact that we're not playing any instruments, it's all spoken word and whistling. The album is going to be called "Frenzal Rhomb: Spoken Word And Whistling" and it's just going to be us talking about going to the shops, buying some ciggies, having a couple of beers.
Jay: It's going to be a really good buys, for the market price of $53.75 at your leading record store.
Lindsay: W'ere actually putting out a live recording of a show we did in Chicage which we're going to put out with another single from "Meet The Family" hopefully before Christmas. The new record is basically the Frenzal Rhomb that we all know and love but it's got its fair share of fucking rock'n'roll...
Jay: Yeah, good old-fashioned fuckin' rock'n'roll!
Massive!: Finally, Lindsay, can you tell the country what it's like being the second-best guitarist in Australia (Massive! Reader's Poll, June/July '98).
Lindsay: It's quite frankly not enough, God dammit. Somewhere Daniel Johns pulled a swiftie on me. It's my fault really, I gave him a riff for...what was it called? "Pure Massacre" or something...some song I wrote a while ago and I didn't really like it, I said he could have it and - what do you know - it becomes a hit. It was one of the songs I wrote in the band I used to be in - the Innocent Criminals - which I left to join Frenzal Rhomb which was, quite frankly, a huge mistake.


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